(911) The Back Page: Volume 2 Issue 9: Last Revision: 06/12/07

 Several months ago our publicity shy, and very mysterious, collector-writer OS2GUY1 penned a couple of articles about his first love … Mexican Republic Silver Minors. Because of all of our past problems we are including both in Issue#9 of Mexican Coin Magic under two different columns. The first one appears here and it gives you his spin on collecting Republican 4 Reales. His second article appears in Let’s Talk About Minors. Again, we solicit your comments about both articles and hope you might consider sharing your insights and expertise regarding collecting Mexican coins just as OS2GUY1 has done.

The WHAT, WHY, and HOW of Collecting 4 Reales

Of the Mexican Republic

By OS2GUY1

 

 

What Are They?

Four Reales of the Mexican Republic were produced from 1827 thru 1870.  These coins basically look like ½ size examples of the much more popular 8 Reales that were produced for much of the 19th century. 

Republican 4 Reales coins were produced at 10 mints during this period, but for many of the years of production the 4 Reales were produced at only 5 to 7 mints at a time. The production of 4 Reales was sporadic at many of the mints, and several mints only produced 4 Reales for a few years. I will describe the characteristics of 4 Reales production at each of the mints:

Mint                     Production          Availability

Culiacan                       Sporadically      All dates are Scarce to Excessively Rare

Catorce                        1 year               Scarce

Guadalajara                  Regularly          A few are Common. Most are Scarce to Excessively Rare      

Guadalupe y Calvo        Regularly          All are Rare to Very Rare

Guanajuato                   Regularly          Most are Common. Very few are Scarce to Rare

Hermosillo                    Sporadically      1 Common, 1 Rare, and 1 is Excessively Rare

Mexico City                  Sporadically      Late dates are Common, the balance are Scarce to Rare

Oaxaca                        1 year               Scarce

Potosi                           Regularly          Some are Common. Most are Scarce to Very Rare

Zacatecas                    Regularly          Most are Common. A few are Scarce. Two are Rare

Why Collect 4 Reales?

This series offers a lot of rewards for those who collect them including History, Challenge, and Bargain Prices.

 

History:

For the entire run of this series these coins freely circulated in the United States.  They share a common numismatic history with American coin collectors. Due to their wide circulation in the United States, I personally do not consider them to even be a ‘foreign’ coin.  Remember those old western movies when they refer to ‘4 bits’?  They are referring to this coin!!!  The circulation of these coins in the United States did not end in 1857 when they lost their legal tender status.  They circulated thru the civil war and up to the time when silver’s price started to drop on the world market (around 1870).

The history of Mexico itself is reason enough to collect these coins. The times were turbulent, and the governments were generally unstable.  Wars occurred on a regular basis.  While the 8 Reales was the coin of international commerce, while the 4 reales was the coin that was the workhorse of the Mexican economy.  Based on the average condition of these coins, it is apparent that they saw lots of daily use among the people.

Challenge:

This is a Very Challenging series to collect!  Based on the results of my census of coins offered over a 3 year period, and a little math, I estimate that for the whole series there are no more than 100,000 to 125,000 examples that may be in existence around the world.  My estimate is that even the most common dates have about 3,000 surviving examples. I seriously doubt that there is any date that has 5,000 surviving examples. 

The coins are generally available and common for only 2 of the 10 mints; Guanajuato and Zacatecas.  The coins from the other mints are generally difficult to locate, and expensive to purchase. 

In this article, when I say something is COMMON, I am referring to dates that have 500 or more examples that may exist in the world (both known and unknown examples).  Scarce dates would have 100 or more coins (both known and unknown examples).  Most of the dates in the series are Scarce to Rare

Don’t let the series’ scarcity discourage you though, because it is possible to build a very respectable collection thanks to the fact that there are not many collectors competing against you.  World wide there are probably at most 300 serious collectors of 4 Reales coins from the Mexican Republic.

If you collect high-grade examples you better be well funded.  The average grade of 4 Reales coins is Fine or less.  Less than 1% of the coins on the market are in Uncirculated condition.  When they come on the market the price easily tops $1,000, even for common dates.  Most of the current 4 Reales collectors dream of having a very high-grade example, and many of them will compete against you when high-grade examples become available. 

It is extremely likely that most dates do not have even one surviving example of a strictly graded Uncirculated coin.

Bargain Priced:

The devaluations of the Mexican Peso in the 1980’s devastated the Mexican middle class.  Their savings were inflated away, and with the loss of that wealth also went most of the collectors of the 4 Real series.  Since the mid 1980’s the prices of 4 Reales have been flat at best. The only thing keeping prices propped up are the respectable number of American collectors of the series. For these American collectors participating in the 4 Reales market since that time it has been like one big bargain sale.  Where else can you get a 140 year old coin with about $4 worth of silver, and a population of 3,000 examples for $10 to $15 in today’s coin market? 

For an entry level 4 Reales collector, you can really build a nice collection without having to spend more than $25 on a single coin.  Advanced collectors get an even better bargain.  Many of the coins that are Very Rare (a probable population of 10 to 25 coins) can be had for less than $1,000 in the lower grades.  These prices make it possible for even a working-class guy, with limited wealth, to afford to own 1 or 2 Very Rare coins for his collection.  It would be impossible to do that with any American series.

 

HOW Can 4 Reales Be Collected?

There are several ways to enjoy the thrill of collecting these historic and rare coins.  You could start out small and gradually branch out from there as your interest and finances allow.  I will discuss ways of enjoying the series in the order of how much you will need to spend.

A Texas Year Set:     (Cost $550 +)

A 4 Real coin from each year until Texas annexation by the United States would be a very historically significant collection.  Such a set would contain an 1827, and 1831 thru 1848.  This set would take you several years of very active collecting in order to complete.  But how much fun is it to collect a series that can be acquired in a short period of time?  This would be a collection that you could frame, show to your best friends, and be very proud of.

Such a set would cost less than $550 in Fine condition and would contain 19 coins.  The Mo 1827 JM should cost about $200 in Fine condition.  The remainder of the coins would cost $25 or less in Fine if you got the most common mint from each year. 

A Full Year Set:            (Cost $950+)

A single coin, from any mint, from each year of 4 Real production by the Republic of Mexico would be an impressive collection.  This would include 1827, then 1831 thru 1864, and 1867 thru 1870.  The entire 39 coin set would take several years of active collecting to complete. 

If your collection consists mainly of Guanajuato and Zacatecas coins, it could be assembled for about $950 (including the $200 for the Scarce Mo 1827 JM) in Fine condition. While this is not a lot of money, it is still not an insignificants sum.  This collection would be significantly challenging to assemble and it would provide pleasure for years, and make a meaningful family heirloom. 

Type Coin:                  (Cost $1,000+)

This set would consist of just one coin in Uncirculated condition.  Surprisingly, this single coin would cost more than a 39-coin year set!!  An Uncirculated example without full detail on the cap or eagle (a weak strike) would cost $750 to $1,000.  These are very rare coins, as fewer than 1% of the available coins are in this grade.  Full strike Brilliant Uncirculated coins are in great demand and will cost $1,500 to $3,000, assuming that the date is not rare. 

Mint Type Set:                       (Cost $1,200+)

A mint type set consists of one coin from each of the 10 mints that produced 4 Reales.  These 10 coins will cost a lot of money, even if you get the cheapest date from each mint in only Fine condition.  The Catorce, Hermosillo, and Oaxaca examples will each cost from $150 to $200.  The Guadalupe y Calvo example will cost about $500.  The remainder should cost about $20 each.  Thus the matching set in Fine condition would run about $1,200.  This would be a very impressive collection, even when showed to the most advanced 4 Real collectors.  This collection would be populated with four Scarce to Rare coins, and several additional tough examples, and a few common examples.  Be prepared to spend some time to assemble this set.  There are a lot of collectors in this category, who are in competition for the scarce to rare mints when they become available, and opportunities to purchase them do not present themselves everyday.

Date, Assayer, and Mint (DAM) Set:          (Cost $20,000+)

This set has a coin from each date and mint the 4 Reales were produced.  Since each coin contains the initials of the assayer, and many years had two assayers, you will also have two coins for many date/mint combinations. 

I can’t even tell you how many coins would be in this set because there are Excessively Rare dates (at least three) that don’t even appear in today’s price catalogs.  To my knowledge no one has ever completed such a set of 4 Real coins.  Aside from the Excessively Rare coins there are many others that are Very Rare and will cost from $1,000 to $3,000 each. 

If you attempt to assemble a DAM set, don’t expect to get all coins for the catalog price.  These published prices are notoriously inaccurate.  There are sleeper DAMs that I suspect are Rare, but are not generally given their due in the catalog with the price that they normally fetch. A sleeper may have a $50 price tag, yet is never available for sale.  When it becomes available, the purchaser may find himself having paid 2 to 10 times the catalog price.  

You will never complete such a set, but it will bring you endless fun in trying to complete it.

Variety Collections:               (Cost Unknown)

Variety collectors are numismatic explorers.  They break new ground in identifying unknown varieties and bringing them to the attention of other collectors.  There are not many of these folks, but they are the cream of the cream of collectors!!!!!!!                           

This can be an endless pursuit.  This can run the gamut of collecting major varieties, to collecting by die variations.  Both rare and common dates have major varieties.  The Oaxaca O 1861 FR 4 Reales has three major varieties of edge devices.  Many dates have two or more varieties of eagles.  The series is ripe with over dates, over mintmarks, and over assayers, many still unpublished in modern catalogs.  The pursuit of varieties can be engrossing, expensive, but very enjoyable.

In Summary:

The best way to start collecting Mexican Republic 4 Real coins is to purchase an inexpensive example the next time the opportunity presents itself to you.  Read about the series.  Talk to fellow 4 Real collectors and learn as much as you can about your coin.  After a while you will find yourself adding to the set.  It is a very rewarding pursuit that can provide a lifetime of enjoyment.

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